It's a DODGE not a WHITE

So, I've been doing some colorizing of old black and white truck photos and the subject of this post is one of them. According to Hemming's Daily where I found this picture it is a WHITE. When I posted the picture on my WHITE face book group one of the members came back and commented that it was a DODGE, specifically a KH-32 from 1934.

Well, somebody did get it wrong. After some research, I found a picture of this in the January 1935 issue of the COMMERCIAL CAR JOURNAL ----

Clearly stated after the build by Coca Cola, this beautiful vehicle was built around a 1934 DODGE K-32. A 1934 issue of POWER WAGON indicates the body work was done by H. McFarlane and company of Chicago,

Below is the colorization I did in typical Coke colors, although another person has done the vehicle in white.

Start spreading the word all -- IT"S A DODGE!!!

Greyhound Bus and Van Lines --- On Facebook

For anyone interested in anything relating to Greyhound Bus and Van Lines, also Grey Van Lines please consider joining this FACEBOOK group -- GREYHOUND BUS and Van Lines -- Get your GREYHOUND fix!

This FACEBOOK group is about anything that relates to GREYHOUND, buses, depots, toys, ads, anything GREYHOUND. We even have Robert Gabrick, author of " GOING THE GREYHOUND WAY - The Romance of the Road" as one of our members. His son Ross serves with me as an administrator.

This is an "open group". and requires you to have a FACEBOOK account.

Here are some examples of some pics you might see when you join --- Your ticket is waiting, come along for the ride!! Click on the links in this message.

Need a HUG?? Get yours on FACEBOOK

HUG TRUCKS are now on FACEBOOK.

A little about HUG from Coachbuilt,com --

"C.J. Hug was a road builder who found that none of the trucks on the market satisfied his requirements as they were too low geared and lacked suitable bodies, so in 1921 he built a prototype of his own design, and went into production with it early in 1922. Powered by a 34 hp 4­cylinder Buda MU engine, the Model T had a Warner 3­speed gearbox and Clark spiral bevel rear axle, giving a top speed of 45 mph, a high figure for even a 1-tonner in 1922, let alone a 2-tonner which the Hug was. It had pneumatic tires and open cab and the choice of a rectangular body for dry loads or an inverted trapezoidal body for wet mixed concrete. For 1925 the T was joined by the 3 ½ -ton Model CH, followed in 1927 by the 4-6-ton Model 88 powered by a 43 hp Buda KUBI engine with Brown-Lipe 7-speed transmission and Wisconsin rear axle. By the early 1930s Hug Roadbuilder trucks were getting larger and larger; the 1937 range included 6 ½, 18 and 20-ton Roadbuilders with 6-cylinder Buda gasoline or 4-cylinder Caterpillar diesel engines. These were 4x2 or 6x4 trucks with shaft drive, but for quarry work there were 6x2 and 6x4 chain-driven models, the chain-drive units being made by the Six Wheel Co. of Los Angeles who made even larger trucks themselves under the name Maxi. A long overhanging shelf, serving as a roof, was built into the front of the dump body as a shelter for the driver. Chassis prices for the quarry trucks ran as high as $18,320 for the 120,000 lb GVW Model C99MA, the largest Hug ever made. A special option for the 6-wheelers was a J. Walter Christie detachable half-track to loop the tandems for work on soft ground. For 1939 a general change from Buda to Waukesha gasoline engines was made, though diesels were still Caterpillar. Hugs were widely used in roadmaking, housing estate construction and dam building; one of the most important customers was the Tennessee Valley Authority who bought 29 of the large 6­-wheelers which were made from 1929 to 1940. Although Roadbuilders and quarry trucks formed the major part of Hug's production, and earned the company fame as they were the first purpose-built trucks of this kind, there were also a number of highway trucks called "Xpress" in 2, 3, and 3 ½ -ton sizes, powered by 6-cylinder Buda engines. Some of the tractors had sleeper cabs when these were far from usual, and there were some cab-over tractors powered by Buda gasoline or Cummins diesel engines. The 1938 Model1610-ton cab-over tractor used a 468cu in Caterpillar diesel engine. In about 1938 the Hug Company began building rear-­engined bus chassis, and also undertook the conversion of standard truck chassis. For a brief period Hug offered completely assembled buses, with a body design of sectional construction which was the basis for the later "Mate" series of bodies built by the Wayne works - not surprising since C.J. Hug's office was in the Wayne factory at Richmond, Indiana. After war broke out in Europe Hug built eight of the Model 50-6 cargo trucks, 6x6 7Y2-tonners powered by Hercules engines and generally resembling the Marmon­-Herringtons of the period. These went overseas under Lend-Lease. After 1939 the number of giant truck models was reduced, and Hug built a series of highway trucks looking identical to the 1941 round-nosed Reos since they bought sheet metal from Reo. Most of these were sold to the Pet Milk Co which, over many years, had bought a total of 177 trucks from Hug. The last Hug truck left the factory on June 10th 1942, ending a 20-year production run of 4,014 units, including about 50 trailers. Hugs were widely distributed, being sold in 41 states and 7 foreign countries including Mexico and South America." In case you missed the link -- HUG TRUCKS -- and of course we need a HUG -- 1937 model 20 ---

B&W truck pics brought to you in living color.

I've got a new hobby, converting B&W photos to COLOR, As much fun as making a model except the paints are cheaper!!! Here are a couple of examples ---

Here is a Federal COE --

An International and Fruehauf

If you like these, there are more on FLICKR ----Colorized by George Murphey

It takes a great trailer -- FRUEHAUF on FACEBOOK

  Like the title says, it take a great trailer to make a great tractor - trailer combo. Now you can have the best of both worlds by joining a FACEBOOK group started by Ruth Ann Fruehauf of the Fruehauf Trailer family -- here are some examples of what you're in for --

   You can join in the fun by following this link -- see you there!!!

Fruehauf trailers were the best

Ward LaFrance Trucks now on FACEBOOK

Yep, that's right, WARD LAFRANCE TRUCK CORPORATION -- trucks 1916 - 1979  now has its' own FACEBOOK group. 

This group is about trucks built by the WARD LAFRANCE CORPORATION between 1916 - 1979, this includes military (WWII), OTR, and fire apparatus -- "The Ward LaFrance Truck Corporation was an American manufacturer of trucks and fire apparatus founded by Addison Ward LaFrance in 1916 in Elmira Heights, NY. The company ceased operations in 1979. LaFrance was a relative of the founder of the similarly named fire apparatus manufacturer American LaFrance. Ward LaFrance built tank wreckers for the US military, vans for United Parcel Service, over the road tractors, cement trucks, dump trucks, chassis for buses and trolleys, and armored cars. Perhaps the best known Ward LaFrance product was the P-80 "Ambassador" model of pumper, which was used as the fictional Los Angeles County Fire Department Engine 51 on the 1970s television program Emergency!.

So all you need to join is have a FACEBOOK account, then send a request for membership to --- 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WardLaFranceTrucks/ 

Absolutely awesome AUTOCARS now on Facebook

Looking for AUTOCARS? Well now you can find them in several FACEBOOK groups (if you belong to FACEBOOK.

1st there is a group I started and administrate called "The Autocar -- Trucks from 1909 - 1980" -- this group is meant for Autocars' built before 1980 but a few sneak in once in a while built in the 80's.

2nd we have a group which I co-administrate called " Friends of the Autocar". This group was started by Ted Goldborough and was intended for AUTOCARS built in Ardmore,Pa. and Exton, Pa.

3rd there is a group started and administrated by Alan Sexton for everything AUTOCAR called "Autocar Enthusiast". This group cover all AUTOCARS no matter what year it was built, or by what company.

4th is a new group called "Autocar Truck Nuts for Everyone". This group offers older AUTOCARS, but its' focus is on the AUTOCARS built post 1980.

5th there is a group administrated by Keith Bunner called "Autocar". A fine group that includes all models of AUTOCAR.


Hope to see you in any of these great groups!!

All about BROCKWAYS ---

If it's BROCKWAY trucks you want, then you're in luck, there are groups and pages on FACEBOOK and a BROCKWAY forum on the WWW --

First let's cover FACEBOOK  groups, there are two called BROCKWAY TRUCKS --

1. Brockway Trucks

2. Brockway  Trucks

Both these groups offer many fine Brockway pictures, testimonials and personal stories -- Then there is a Brockway Page I recommend for owners of Brockways that want to register their trucks, also a good source for pictures and source of a fine publication know as "Brockway Today"

1.Brockway Today and The Brockway Motor Trucks National Registry 

Finally, there is a website that offers a forum and info about the Brockway Truck Preservation Association and the CNY museum that houses the Brockway Museum. They also host the annual Brockway Show in Cortland, NY.

1. Brockway Trucks Preservation Association

I hope that BROCKWAY fans who read this post will consider looking at one or more of these groups, pages, or web sites and sharing in the love of an outstanding truck make -- BROCKWAY!!

WALTER SNOW FIGHTERS and MOTOR TRUCKS now on FACEBOOK

Yes, another DEDICATED FACEBOOK GROUP for WALTER SNOW FIGHTERS and MOTOR TRUCKS all you need is a FACEBOOK account to join!!! Come on over, this is a COOL group!!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WalterSnowFighters/ ---

From 1931 ---

 Navy Crash Truck USN 274996 as a 1954 Walter-Maxim

White Motor Truck Group on Face Book --

If you are a fan of White Motor Trucks pre 1980, and you have a FACEBOOK account, come over to our group about these great trucks --- https://www.facebook.com/groups/WhiteMotorTrucks/ !!! Some great pics and good commentary.

A is for THE AUTOCAR, B is for BROCKWAY --- NEW FACEBOOK GROUPS

All it takes is a FACEBOOK account and you can join in the fun of belonging to a FACEBOOK GROUP devoted to the love of either THE AUTOCAR ---- Trucks from 1909 - 1980. Or if you are a fan of Brockway trucks, try BROCKWAY TRUCKS.

However, if you can't make up your mind (like me, that's why I started two groups) ----- JOIN BOTH!!!

TWICE THE FUN AND IT'S FREE --- well sort of free, you are expected to contribute pictures!!!

Gilmore Streamliner --- UPDATE

Thanks to someone I only know as "GILMORE", his handle on JUST OLD TRUCKS, the 1935 Gilmore has been POSITIVELY identified as a WHITE ---

NOW READ THIS!!!

Most likely candidate would be this WHITE COE from 1935 --

Also identified is the driver in this picture of the Gilmore/Mobiloil truck --

The man in the photo is A. F. Bach, long time employee of the Gilmore Co. He worked for Gilmore for more than 20 yrs and then for Mobil, after the merger with Gilmore in 1945. In the 1930's, Bach was the assistant to Gilmore engineer E. J. Sanders. Bach appears in many racing related photos from Bonneville to Daytona (Fla), from Ascot to Indy, filling up Gilmore cars with gas/oil.

Until I know your name -- THANK YOU "GILMORE"!!!

Update 06/11/13 -- "GILMORE" is Jeremey Gilmore, amateur (so he says) Gilmore Oil historian and collector. 

1935 Gilmore Streamliner COE Tank Truck -- Mystery Truck

It was 1935, the height of what was known as the Art Deco Period,  trucks didn't escape that influence. Canada's LaBatt's had their "stream-liner" bear truck, and now Earl Gilmore wanted something special for his Gilmore Oil Company. That is why he approached  Advance Auto Body of Los Angeles where W.E. Miller was employed to design a unique tank truck that would subsequently be used to promote the 1936-39 Gilmore Gas Trials.

The design was given over to Standard Auto Body Works, Inc. where a group of craftsmen created a one of a kind absolutely beautiful creation -- the 1935 Gilmore Streamline COE tank truck. As mentioned, this truck was used in the early Gilmore Economy Runs, and made trips between LA and Yosemite during these events. The following picture shows the truck in Yosemite.

Whatever this truck was based on (we'll get to that latter) it was originally a single axle to which a tag axel was attached by Six Wheels Inc. I believe that since the design didn't allow for the cab to tilt to get to the engine, the designers came up with a solution already being used in two COE's of the time -- White and Mack. Both these truck companies had trucks that utilized a slide out engine tray that slid out the front of the truck -- as in the White and Mack COE's

 shown below.

So, remember I said we'd get back to what the stream-liner was based on? Well, very little was written about this build. W.E. Miller could not save his design notes from Advance Auto Body. The only thing I've found is a partial article from the November 1935 issue of WESTERN TRUCK OWNER that thanks to Alden Jewell and the late Fred Crimson I share below --

I have done some extensive searches for the rest of this article. My first search took me to the publisher of HEAVY DUTY TRUCKING. In 2012, they had done a 90th anniversary series in their magazine that mentioned their ancestral lines as coming through WESTERN TRUCK OWNER, the magazine changed titles through the years becoming HEAVY DUTY TRUCKING. The fellow I spoke to thought they had bound copies of all the issues of WESTERN TRUCK OWNER, however the company had just went through a corporate change and some one threw them all out. 

My second search took me to the Library of Congress, very nice folks, where after three days they notified me that they did not have what I was looking for in their holdings. They were kind enough to check WORLDCAT, a catalog of the holdings of 40,000 libraries wold wide -- they had one hit. That hit led me to Nick Wilkenson of the OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY LIBRARY. Nick found the issue I needed, but initially could not find the article or the pictures I needed. I had however attached the partial article and the photos I was looking for for reference.

Are you sitting down?  After going back through the issue, Nick determined that the article and pictures were removed by someone other than Library staff. Now the library is caught up in the same search as I am, trying to replace this issue.

So, let's take a breather here and get back to Gilmore Oil and the truck. In 1945 Gilmore Oil Co. was bought out by Saucony Oil in LA. Subsequently, they would become Mobiloil and Mobiloil would continue with the Economy Runs started by Gilmore.

What wasn't known, until I found this VERY RARE picture on FLICKR, General Petroleum/Mobiloil acquired the Stream-Liner and it was used into the 1950's.

It is rumored that in the early 50's Mobiloil scrapped this truck. Unfortunately this is probably true as no other pictures exist and there is no record after that time -- it is gone!

Earlier I made mention of the late Fred Crimmson, author of many fine truck related books. Apparently Fred had this picture and according to Alden Jewell that is Fred's handwriting below the picture that is below --

It says, 1935 WHITE built by Standard Auto Body Works, Los Angeles. I think Fred knew something I'm still trying to find. He had the "proof".

It's a White -- one BEAUTIFUL WHITE!!!!

The following photo was sent to me by a friend. It show's Earl Gilmore showing off his tuck circa 1939 --

And I am VERY jealous of whoever has this fine model --

 thanks to ----

 Alden Jewell for photos

 The Fred Crimson Collection

 and the fellows on JUST OLD TRUCKS for their input --

More "OLD SCHOOL" from David Timms --

Dave --- I'll let your work do the talking -- A picture IS worth a thousand words!!